A recent question raised during a brief look into antiquity triggered a mind tripping, synapse snapping awareness of a possibility I never before considered. While freely acknowledging I sometimes spend as much time in the ‘to be resharpened’ drawer as most others and might have missed any such discussion in the past, it was new to me when I saw the question, ‘was Socrates real or was he a character developed by Plato? I’ve read similar articles targeting the reality of Jesus; Socrates news was never on my BOLO list.
The Penguin Classics version of Plato The Republic I use was translated by H.D.P. Lee and although the copy was purchased in 1972 I’ve never made a serious attempt to read it in the fifty years it’s been sitting on one shelf or another and to be honest, it never made that much sense to me anyway until recently.
Reading through certain sections of The Republic I have wondered about those who have read it, how many have recognized what it was laying out and how many had an understanding of the correlating events that were presented throughout the disintegrative stages of our Republic but did not draw attention to it clearly nor with any great force.
The answers to the correlates are clearly explained in the Translator’s Introduction to https://ia601502.us.archive.org/22/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.125807/2015.125807.Plato-The-Republic.pdf The Republic.
I also learned Socrates never wrote anything. Some have even suggested https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/2484/was-socrates-a-fictional-character-invented-by-plato Socrates was invented by Plato. That’s when it occurred to me that maybe Plato developed himself into the role of https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/american_english/devil-s-advocate Devil’s advocate. From that point on I was travelling a rickety bridge to another level of understanding on this multi -faceted gem we call Life.
What goes around, comes around does appear to be the form and style of Arena Earth and education designs the controls that deliver the means that sketches the plan the architects draw and the https://civilengineeringnotes.com/surveying/ surveyor develops that lays the trail that determines the form of resets used throughout history that blaze the predestined path of civilization for humanity to travel. Predestined? Here’s some evidence.
Wouldn’t you agree the major undermining issues of human society identified by Plato and targeted as https://www.directives.doe.gov/terms_definitions/causal-factor the causal factors listed below of misery and abject poverty comprise the meat of the human condition?
- Abolish families PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 212
- Deception and lies PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 214
- Women’s equality PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 209
- Have no possessions PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 221
- Slavery PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 220
- Civil strife and war PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 229
- Abortion and eugenics PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 215
- Children are State Property PART SIX [BOOK FIVE] Women and the family pg 201
Those issues were discussed by Plato in The Republic and The Republic, as described by H.D.P. Lee, (pg 16) is a statement of the aims of the Academy he founded in Athens in 386 B.C. and purposed to train a new type of politician, a class of ‘philosophic statesmen’. Somewhere along the line the student body must have been re-directed.
But what do those issues have to do with predestination?
Only one thing for Christians; God our Creator has blessed humanity with a conscience and the ability to distinguish between right and wrong.
The concept of predestination implies a nullification of discernment when we are faced with a difficult choice; it provides an excuse to bail.
Lee pointed out it was unlikely Plato expected immediate results but who would have thought more than two thousand years later the same issues…
- Abolish families * https://www.bucksafa11.org/2022/03/02/smell-the-sulfur/
- Deception and lies https://www.bucksafa11.org/2021/05/26/responsibility-as-deception/ **
- Women’s equality *** https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/02/women-white-miller-woman-young-2
- No possessions **** https://newspunch.com/wef-caught-scrubbing-you-will-own-nothing-and-be-happy-post-from-internet/
- Slavery ***** http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc1404/article_1241.shtml
- Civil strife and war ****** https://www.bucksafa11.org/2020/09/06/lunch-bucket-joe/
- Abortion and eugenics ******* https://www.bucksafa11.org/2022/06/27/wymen/
- Children are State property ******** https://thenewamerican.com/project-veritas-uncovers-abuse-of-migrant-children-in-latest-sting/
…would still be the issues manipulated by politicians? That’s quite a stretch even for modern thinkers under the influence of propaganda to believe; political power so continuous it would enable politicians to shape a world that survived powerful resets for almost two millennia and still have the same core problems that stretched back to ancient Greece?
Looking back 2,000 years I’d say Plato’s Academy was either semi-successful, a perfectly performed misdirection play or its intentions had been completely hijacked by that entity that comes to mind when we consider whose single focused end purpose is reportedly hell bent on subverting Gods’ creations.
Do you think politicians, proven believers of the church of the here and now, based on only one precept,’ what’s in it for me?’, and having https://lenau-dance.blogspot.com/2011/06/english-translation-of-nikolaus-lenau.html Mephistopheles as their choir director, control the reins of human development? Politicians are the reins and reins respond to whoever is holding them. Look again, it ain’t US.
Something is being ignored and it’s about time the danger that ignorance is denying is recognized.
* https://www.herald.co.zw/in-uk-children-belong-to-the-state/ 02/2022
* https://thefederalistpapers.org/world/court-children-belong-state-not-parents 2017
* https://www.thecollegefix.com/professor-children-belong-to-the-state-not-parents-video/ 4/13
**https://ia802605.us.archive.org/9/items/nationalsecurit00housgoog/nationalsecurit00housgoog.pdf pgs 24-25
**htttp://voluntarysociety.org/conditioning/misc/peoplespottage.html
** http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article12509.html
** https://usrtk.org/industry-pr/science-media-centre/
**https://www.bucksafa11.org/2020/06/27/science-of-coercion-copyright-1994-how-its-done/
**** https://www.azquotes.com/author/9564-Karl_Marx
**** https://www.investopedia.com/terms/k/karl-marx.asp
**** https://mises.org/library/marxism-lives The Ten Planks of Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto (and How Statists Implement Them)
**** https://www.uspto.gov/ip-policy/patent-policy/technology-transfer
*****https://www.rbf.org/about/our-history/timeline/one-world-program
*****https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2567702/pdf/12571727.pdf Global governance, international health law and WHO
****** https://www.bucksafa11.org/2022/07/16/a-different-perspective-of-the-dimensions-of-deception/
****** https://www.bucksafa11.org/2021/01/17/do-you-believe-in-the-rest-of-the-story/
****** https://www.bucksafa11.org/2020/09/06/lunch-bucket-joe/
****** https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/biden-delaware-way-graft/
****** https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-hunter-biden-china-joint-venture-key-contacts
******* https://www.ontheissues.org/social/John_Rockefeller_Abortion.htm
******* https://cultureshiftforlife.com/2019/03/17/narrating-abortion/
******* https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/14/organ-tranplants-addiction-disclosure/
******** https://www.herald.co.zw/in-uk-children-belong-to-the-state/ 02/2022
******** https://thefederalistpapers.org/world/court-children-belong-state-not-parents 2017
******** https://thefreethoughtproject.com/government-corruption/debate-politician-claims-children-belong-to-state 2017
******** https://www.thecollegefix.com/professor-children-belong-to-the-state-not-parents-video/ 4/13
******** https://www.themarysue.com/you-are-worth-more-dead-than-alive-infographic/
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